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I've been incontinent for decades. Along the way I've picked up on some things that may help others. Got some of your own? Add them in. -A thick diaper that's done its job is WAY less noticeable than a thin one that's leaked. -Black pants hide wet spots and make it harder to see your diaper outline. -Plastic backed diapers contain smells the best, and tend to sag much less than cloth. -A diaper cover will help you notice any leaks before a wet spot appears. -A PUL diaper cover will also silence most plastic diapers. -Premium/thick diapers actually cost less "per day" than thin ones. Mostly because you'll need changing less often, and will go through fewer diapers each day. -Remove your diapers from their packaging for at least a week before needing them. They come compressed, and allowing them to expand some means they will absorb and wick much better when used. -Fold the diaper in half length-wise. This will create a center channel that help with absorption and also removes the folds from packaging. -When you do get a good fit, try to memorize where the tapes ended up at. And next time put the tapes in that same spot. No more worrying about getting a good fit, and no more having to readjust. -When putting on a diaper, avoid touching or rubbing where the tapes should end up at. Otherwise you're depositing some of the oil on your hands to that spot, which will weaken the tape stickiness. Also, once stuck on, give them a quick rub. This will help improve their grip and prevent the tapes from popping off later. -Staying well hydrated means your pee will smell much less. -Wear one pant size larger, with a comfort or relaxed fit, and you'll be able to hide your diaper much better. -People generally don't stare at your crotch, and genrally won't notice your diaper as much as you think. -And finally, wearing a diaper is neither illegal nor immoral. No matter your reason. You really can wear them without worrying of being caught or found out. And if you are, just say it's personal and you don't want to talk about it. No explanations or reasons are necessary on your part (unless you want to).

Don't forget about wearing rubber pants. They are less common nowadays but should supplement "plastic" pants in the wardrobe of anyone who is bowel incontinent. I will stress that I do not mean rubber pants as a fetish item. Rubber is better at containing odor, particularly fecal odor, than plastic pants (of a similar thickness).😀 Often I wear either rubber pants or rubber bloomers during periods when I think I may be at a greater risk of a bowel accident. In such instances I wear rubber pants over a pair of plastic pants. This gives me a "second line of defense" against a fecal leak and, if I experience a bowel accident, it (hopefully) protects the rubber garment from being soiled. Why bloomers? The legs on bloomers come down the thighs below plastic pants. That helps to catch leaks. It also is easy to change where the legs of the bloomers make contact to avoid skin irritation. I always hand-wash my rubber pants and hang them to air dry. They have lasted a very long time. --John

That was said by the x-men Gambit, shortly before he was accused of murdering the president, and all heck broke loose. A very few may recognize my old name on daily diapers, Baby Brian. And why I hadn't been around there. That was a long time ago though, and is not something I'll be getting into here. So starting anew, call me Slomo. It's my gamer tag, given to me by a cousin when I first played Lazer tag. I had a slow momentum at first, but soon caught on how to play it, and at some point it was like everyone else was playing in slow motion to me. So it's a double entranda, Slo-mo. Now about me: I was injured in a bad car wreck about 25 years ago, while in the USMC. Among things, I had spinal bruising at my L5-S1. A seemingly magic spot for causing urinary and/or bowel problems for many. I immediately developed severe urge incontinence, along with a slowly worsening neurogenic dyssynergia sphincter (more on that later). At the recommendation from my doctor, I started wearing a diaper while I was still in. Mostly because I wasn't very mobile and couldn't make it to the restroom in time. Still, I fought having to wear them, as I've also been a life-long ABDL. I reasoned since I loved diapers that I was just making an excuse to wear them, and didn't actually need them. It took me a few years of close calls, wet pants, and embarrassment before I was discharged and finally embraced them. Over the next decade my dyssynergia got worse. Basically my sphincter control wires were crossed. Whenever i tried to relax to pee, my muscle would clamp down instead. It got really painful due to my urgency, so I'd push and strain past my own sphincter just to pee. I went from one urologist to another for help. But I couldn't finish their urodynamics test, and pee past the catheter at the end. So none of them believed me. I once even spent a straight 7 months with an indwelling catheter. Just to alleviate the pain and let my kidneys heal. I still ended up with painful hemorrhoids, a bleeding anal fissure, and one really bad kidney stone. Eventually I met a urologist at my local Mayo Clinic, who took me for my word first- then went about verifying it. I was almost immediately put in for a sphincterotomy surgery. Then another, and a bunch more, all about every 3-4 months apart. All just to try and open my external and internal sphincters. Along the way I developed a stricture, so it was more surgeries for that too. In the end, I had gone through 15 surgeries! My heart stopped during one, I had a suprapubic catheter (temporary bypass through the abdomen and into the bladder for a other, had a TURP, then full prostrate removal, and had an inch of my urethra removed. Finally though I'm stable, and my bladder no longer painfully fills. I'm now functionally urinary incontinent, and constantly dripping. I've learned quite a lot along the way too. So just ask me, I might already have an answer for you.

For me, form must follow function. That is, a diaper is intended to absorb pee without leaking. So above all else, any diaper needs to be trustworth to not leak. If it does leak on me more than 1-2 times a month, then I need a better diaper. And wow have I gone through a LOT of diapers finding one. Which ended up being Betterdry for me. Of note; I found any diaper that uses a "no lower tapes" design will leak around my legs well before it is even half used. By this I mean if you look at any diaper with a front tape landing panel. The back wings will have one tape nearly centered, and one tap near the top. There is no lower tape. This all said, Betterdry has several variants. The same exact make, but with prints. Ever since embracing my DL side I've made Crinklz my day and night, go-to diaper. I only need two diapers in 24 hours, so they also cost me less than $5.00 per day. Something other diapers like arena, tenant seni can't do for me. And certainly not the "cheap" diapers like depends or atn. And yes, I've been to the ER in a crinklz. Gone into w waaaayy to many surgeries with them on. Ive also changed in an open locker room with them, and kept them on while sunbathing at the beach. (Not like I have the choice to just take them off either). Though if I plan to go into the water I wear a reusable pocket diaper. It has a waterproof outer liner and a thin terry cloth inner liner, with a removable cloth booster pad. I can remove the pad, and the terry liner will catch any dribbling to and from the water. Work good at water parks too. Though I do have to make sure to break a leg seal when getting out, so the water can drain out. Lest I want to walk around sloshing.

I will agree that Northshore beats out any of the other medical disposable diapers on the market.

My initial incontinence adult onset was secondary nocturnal enuresis that came about due to illness and the set of medications used to deal with the illness. The medication "tweaked" how I sensed things. Years ago, most doctors didn't give slight changes in how you sense things much thought. With covid-19, I notice a change in this area is now more noted. Two weeks on the medication left me never waking up each night when the full bladder hit. After getting off the medication and the illness cleared, it had changed what had been pre-illness occasional nocturia into occasional nocturnal enuresis. Years later, with early onset BPH, playing the watch and wait game, then finally having Rezūm procedure, my bladder capacity has decreased (from the bladder wall thickening, and the muscle strengthening). This has shifted the nocturnal enuresis to nightly (assuming I stay normally (or better) hydrated and also get a good nights sleep) and added a daytime light leaking component, which means I'm now wearing protection all the time (outside of the bathroom). I still normally make it during the day to the toilet, but I now have a slight pre and/or post leak that will leave some dampness I have to deal with.

Been to the ER in a MegaMax in the tie-dye colors. The nurses loved it. I even took one to show my SCI rehab doctor as a sort of "show and tell." --John

Welcome and I know you were in the USMC and I am in the USCG

Thanks to both of you. Yeah, rough is an understatement. It's funny how life works out sometimes. Even at an early age I wanted to be incontinent. Guess I should have been more careful in that wish though. While I enjoy the end result, getting here was anything but enjoyable.

@Incont Since this is the form that we would discuss our symptoms and our diagnosis, I figured I would place something here so people know what I deal with. Please note that because we do not have very many members yet, I'm not going to hit the mentions for every person, but they will see the posting here when they enter the Forum, so I shouldn't have to worry about that. once we have a lot more members, then we can start using mentions to be able to allow them to see that in their notifications panel ~Brian~ I will say that I have many diagnosis, but that is because I have cerebral palsy, and there's a myriad of other things that can crop up because you are dealing with it. One of the things that I was dealing with in 2018 and 19 was having accidents all the time, or not being able to get to the bathroom fast enough in like summer of 2019, where I would feel it and I wouldn't be even able to get up to be able to respond, or I wouldn't even know that I was doing it until it was it was too late. When this started happening, I knew that I had to have some help, so that's when I started as a member of Daily Diapers, I knew that this is where I needed to be, because I needed to help and the support because I'm thinking to myself how is I going to handle it? so my primary diagnosis is cerebral palsy, known as CP: it is a neurological condition and not a disease. CP can affect your muscles your bones your tendons and other parts of your body as well as your brain and other functions. there are there are many different types of CP, but each diagnosis of CP is different and unique to the person who has it, and it is caused due to something happening like maybe at birth when the cord gets wrapped around someone's neck, or there might be something that is caused in the womb And then you're born with CP I'm not sure exactly how that works, but there are many different types of CP, many different severities, and it is dependent on the individual who has it. As such, I have many sub diagnosis that have been showing up showing up over the years. here in this form, we will be dealing with incontinence, and it's tied to CP. My primary diagnosis based on incontinence are: "Cerebral Palsy" " Continuous leakage of urine" "Fecal and continents with fecal urgency" I have also been diagnosed with diverticulitis and IBS. these conditions combined with CP can cause many problems. That I was continent for as long as I was from about the age of two until the age of 46. once I started having accidents and having problems where I did not have any idea what was going on and I'm able to respond fast enough, I knew that I was in need of help, so my first stop was daily diapers. I chose this site because the people on it are very knowledgeable and know how they deal with certain situation, how to deal with the conditions, how to deal with the semantics of having incontinence, making sure you have the right equipment and supplies, and the most important thing is the support of a loving community that doesn't judge based on the fact that someone is dealing with I made the choice in 2020 to go full time in diapers. This is because of all the Times that I would have accidents, Or when I didn't know what was gonna happen and when. as I started my journey, I went to the doctor and asked him for my help, got the diapers I needed, and I called my case management team to tell them that I needed some help, and to open the floodgates. I was surprised at how quickly I was able to get whatever I needed to make myself able to handle the physical aspects of dealing with incontinence the changing of the diapers making sure your clean making sure that you're not dealing with rashes and other problems, because as you're dealing with incontinence you have to make sure that your extra clean and other things that normally someone that just takes a shower for example would take for granted. Once I went to the testing phase of every single cloth backed ridiculous diaper that they supposedly make, I was able to finally get the Megamax. I basically had to tell Medicaid that I was dealing with severe incontinence both ways, and I asked for the diagnosis to be added, because I wasn't gonna deal with having accidents and not have a way to deal with it period Of course they wanted me to be tested, and all this, And I just basically said that I had CP already, and it is widely known CP do deal with incontinence issues depending on the situation, and I am dealing with such an issue, and I am the expert and so is the doctor, so they know what I need, so there's no need for me to go to urologist to be tested. once the doctor gave me the proper diagnosis and the paperwork to back it up, I was able to get the Mega Max's within 10 days, or at least they said 10 days and I think it was like 3. I think somebody kicked it up to the top, after I had done my homework and listed my top five diapers that I wanted, as asked, and the first one was the Mega Max and that was what they approved period Now that I've proven that I need them, I don't have to prove anything else and I can continue to use those diapers because they work for me. I also think that having cerebral palsy, and using a wheelchair for as long as I have, may have contributed to it, because I was constantly being pulled in and out of rehab centers to help me with extended therapy. As normal, they want you to be mobile and be able to do a lot of different things And that's why the urine therapy, But I feel as when I went in there I was making a huge backstep, they had me using my wheelchair all the time, and by the time a week passed I was probably ready for a diaper, because I couldn't hold anything at night, because no one would take me to the bathroom. Then this starts with a whole bunch of people telling me that would be easier for them if I wore a diaper, And then I was in diapers, and sometimes I would be given heck and sometimes it would be OK. Whatever happened, I was constantly worrying about what was happening to me as some of these people were really nasty and did nasty things. Because of me being in diapers 24/7 for almost actually it's eight weeks the first time and 2nd time it was for six weeks, I was basically in diapers for 14 solid weeks. This made it harder for me to be able to retrain and I knew and I knew my parents were going to be angry, but I just told them that that's what they did, and then they were fine with it, but there were other things that were traumatic. i'll spare that here But to say that incontinence fun, is NOT true for many, but when you were when you were totally incontinent and you have no choice because you don't have any control, you figure out ways to handle it. I don't know if my CP makes my incontinence worse because of the fact that things are changing in my body and my ability to be mobile is changing as well, but when I end up having accidents and I'm not sure what is going on or when it's happening, I'm always happy to have a diaper on, And because of that, I don't have to worry anymore, and I can live my life to the highest standard possible. So I think the reason why I'm incontinent as well as a diaper lover, is because of the fact that I was in rehab for 14 weeks straight, And the fact that I always like the feeling and the smells that diapers illicit. Many people would say that wearing diapers is a chore, but in my case it can be annoying, because you constantly have to be on the alert to be able to change, and sometimes things happen in places in situations that you wish it didn't, but when you don't have a choice, then you have to be able to make appropriate choices whether with your clothing, your equipment, your supplies, the way you handle your bathroom management, maybe medicine management, and being able to quickly realize when you should change, because you don't want to be hanging around in a dirty diaper for too long, for that causes skin breakdown and wicked diaper rush, i've dealt with that and it's no fun. I'm just so glad that there are people that accept that there are people that are incontinent! many times people would say that we were "lazy" Or other words that describe the situation where we wear diapers to handle our incontinence. Incontinence is nothing to fear, and incontinence in my mind is the least of my medical conditions that I have to worry about. I can deal with my incontinence, and I choose to deal with it using diapers, it also helps with my feelings and all of the urges that I deal with period Since wearing diapers is not a problem, wearing diapers helps me deal with those things, and makes me feel safe And my stress level has been brought down to zero or pretty close. I'd rather wear diapers for the rest of my life than have consonant worrying about things that I can't control: And in my case, incontinence is something I can't control, So the best thing I can do is to accept it, And accept that I need diapers, and accept that there's no shame in wearing them and there's no reason to feel guilty said or any of those types of because a diaper is there for a reason, here we can discuss that, and we deal with things that cause incontinence or other conditions. my CP in my mind is the main condition, while incontinence and the others listed on my medical profile are subconditions or problems that arise because of my age and because of my CP. I would definitely interested to hear others diagnosis and be able to determine how they deal with their incontinence or their symptoms and diagnosis. the one thing that's a real pain in the neck is my IBS or my diverticulitis because sometimes that can really come up on me and really cause me problems. i'm glad that there are people who do then continents other than myself, and I know I'm not alone, and that I have good friends that help me to realize that there's no shame in wearing diapers are using them or needing them. It's just a fact of life that you deal with. Brian

Thanks for your very detailed explanation. I am amazed that you were able to get MegaMax via Medicaid. Well done! --John

I was pleased that you used the phrase "live a normal life." That is the sort of positive thinking that all ICs should have.

HI everyone, My Name is Nicky. I have Urge and Urinary Incontinence and I wear diapers 24/7 and my go to diapers are Northshore Mega Max diapers. I have been Incontinent since I was 21 yrs old and I have been in diapers since then.

Northshore diapers are my favorite diaper and they beat out all the other diapers on the market

@John Davis The easiest way to do that would be to either send him a message on daily diapers, asking him to join incont.org, or maybe if I make a call to North Shore headquarters, I can leave a message with one of his staff, and tell them about this site so he can join this one as well. I know that Mr Greenberg has been very helpful to many people on DD, and I think if he were to join this site as well, he would be able to monitor both And if there are any questions or any concerns about products he would be able to answer questions that are Going to arise. Brian

Hi Brian and John. I have a lot of favorites now that I have discovered most of the brands and tried them out. And yes, I do appreciate color choices. I have always had a personal taste in clothing and being somewhat stylish. I am a dad so i became "not cool" years back 😁, however, I do like to dress well. Makes me somewhat sad that I can't wear some of the pants that are "in style" because they are snug fitting in the crotch area, (not great for diaper wearing), but i have found choices that suit me while still being discreet. I have more recently tried out some of the AB brands that offer high capacity diapers. I have always passed by them as cosplay type items that are expensive and not useful for incontinence. That I have found to be the furthest thing from the truth. In fact some are more comfortable and work amazingly better than "medical" grade diapers. While i don't really have a taste for the baby prints, but there are prints and diapers in colors that are a nice change from plain white. I did however order the "Mega Safari" type from rearz while they were on sale. I caught a look at myself and had a good chuckle. It wasn't really "me" but they are very cute and for folks that use them for emotional needs I imagine they are fun. The ink bled onto my skin so I will probably avoid buying them again. Colorful diapers that I have tried and like so far: Rearz Skulls Northshore Megamax black Northshore Polka dots Tykables Camelots Regular diapers I like: Betterdry Abena Plastic back Incontrol Essential Incontrol Active Air Main thing for me is if I have to wear these all day I want to be comfortable and feel dry. the Incontrol diapers have really helped me out with that. A real nice thing about them is the tape guides. I have sometime have trouble with keeping things symmetrical so that is a really helpful feature. It's also nice to forget that i'm putting on diapers because im "disabled" so YES colors and patterns are great and I 100% appreciate them.

@John Davis Neither am I, nor am I ashamed of wearing diapers, or anything that I'm dealing with. part of the problem that I had was that I was having so much stress that I was dealing with that it was driving me crazy, and since there is a lot of correlation between stress and being able to regress, one of the best things to do is to remove as much stress as you can from your life. when I turned 50, all of my stress seem to be increasing, and it was getting to the point where I just wanted to throw it all away, and go to some place that's warm and comfortable and not somewhere where I have to worry about every little possible thing that happened in the world around us. the world around us is full of craziness that we don't need to deal with, full of people that don't like to tell us the truth, or they manipulate things, or they do whatever they do, in a way to serve their own interest, rather than to deal with problems of the world. I just got sick of having everybody come down on me like 100 pounds of leather, and in their attempt to try to help me, they make it worse because they make me feel like something is definitely wrong with me And I am going to somehow expire. When you have that much stress on your mind and you're not sure exactly how to handle it, the best way to do it is to realize that your health can be affected. For many years, I haven't been able to sleep very well at night, because I'm constantly getting up in the middle of the night using the bathroom and staying in there for at least an hour hour and a half every night, sometimes more than twice, sometimes I go into the bathroom for example at midnight and I don't come out until 1 AM, so therefore i'm wasting time sitting on the toilet worrying about whether I'm going to release rather than getting the sleep I need, then I end up getting up early in the morning and I'm half dead when I come back. when I found that this was happening, along with my incontinence, along with the stress, I knew that the proper way for me to handle my incondence was to deal with it with diapers, to deal with the stress and the lack of sleep, diapers help me because I don't have to be Superman and try to get to the bathroom all the time. It also helps if I have to release regardless of what I release, because I don't have to worry, and I get a better night's sleep. i'd rather have a wet diaper or a back of a wet shirt than have a sleepless night where I can't function, or I'm half out of it and I just don't have any energy. many times, I ended up thinking like the whole world doesn't understand, and I understand perfectly why I wanted to do what I did, why I needed to do what I did, and why it makes sense. I shouldn't have to worry that part of my body is going to not work the way it's supposed to when it needs to work, or worry that what I'm going to release would inconvenience me. having a diaper on helps me deal with the stress, and all of the feelings, and protects me from incontinence but also helps me with my confidence with my attention span and other things, 'cause I don't have to worry anymore about whether I diaper on are not, or whether I have to use the bathroom. Like you John, whenever I get a chance to get up in the morning, I take my diaper off and I make sure that I empty out completely. This may be that I use the bathroom for number 2 from time to time, but as much as I can if I know I'm going to go somewhere and I need to go #2, i'd rather have a release of #2 in the toilet rather than to have to do it in a diaper, because it's easier when you know you have to do a BM to do it in the toilet then it would be to do it in the diaper and then have to change the diaper twice. Most of the time, i'm very well aware of what happens, and I can deal with many situations, but having a diaper has really helped me because I don't have to worry anymore if I'm gonna use it, because I will use it. That incontinence is no picnic, and it's no bed of Roses, but we all know what we deal with, and we all try to help one another deal with situations as we move forward. When I went to diapers in 2020 full time, I realized that I don't have to feel ashamed worried scared or otherwise. I'm also not ashamed of my medical conditions or the fact that I wear a diaper, because wearing a diaper makes it easier for me to manage things, and I manage them well. I also don't have to worry if I need to go to the bathroom for some reason, and I don't have to run anywhere, I can just use the bathroom wherever I am, knowing that I have to change when it's necessary. I always look at it this way John, if you can take the disability by the the ring in the bull's nose and take control of it, it won't have you You have it. Sometimes your disability does things you might not be able to control, but I always think of it this way, I have a disability It does not have me, and it's not gonna stop me from being the man that I want to be, being the uncle that I want to be or the cousin or the son that I wanna be. I am very happy with my life, there are things that I wish I could change sometimes but other than that, I am very happy, and I'm very thankful for what I do have, and I'm very thankful for my diapers. there are many people out there that don't understand what incontinence means to the person who is incontinent. they also may not understand a reason for somebody wearing diapers, because they think that everyone may have the control that they think everybody does And so they don't need to, so people may decide to chastise someone for that! that is not that is not the right way to handle it, and we have people who are incontinent and have no control, or are they decide to use diapers for whatever reason, incontinence being the number one reason, but because someone uses a diaper does not make them any different than anybody else, it's just a way that they deal with it. and let me tell you, diapers are hell of a lot more comfortable sometimes than regular underwear, and where can you actually do all your business in a diaper and then get rid of it? You might not be able to do all your business in your underwear, because one hell of a mess is created, a diaper can at least contain that mess while you are cleaning yourself up! When I hear people say that they want to be in continent, I'm always telling them that it's not all it's cracked up to be, And you will have major changes that you will have to make to your life, and you will have times when you won't be able to control what happens or when it happens or where it happens. It can also be a pain in the neck when you are sick and you have to keep changing diapers because you are trying to get rid of something in your body, I think what they think is fun is maybe if they wet themselves or something, but let me tell you from experience and I've talked to many people that are incontinent, both ways, and it is not something that is somehow easier to deal with. When you're incontinent, you deal with it every day because you have to, You deal with it in a way you have to because that's the way it is: that's life And if and if you run into that situation you deal with it, and there are some people that think that being incontinent is cool, but it really isn't when you talk about medical conditions come we deal with it and we know how to deal with it, and I wouldn't trade my current situation for anything, because my incontinence allows me to wear the diapers, and allows me to have the diapers, as well as the feelings that are elicited are being dealt with by wearing diapers, and it makes me feel like I a safety net. Welcome @John Davis Brian

Hi all, I'm John. I'm a retired senior and live in an active retirement community in North Carolina (I haven't changed my email address that says "Virginia.") I'm double incontinent due to a bad fall many years ago, plus surgery and just growing older. I manage my incontinence well and no one has guessed my "secret." I see a couple of familiar names, and some of you may recognize me from other forums where I usually post in the incontinence section. My "go-to" diaper is the Better Dry, but I also wear the MegaMax (in tie-dye colors) and Incontrol Elite Hybrid. I normally use a booster pad and "plastic pants." Often I wear rubber pants or bloomers on top as latex blocks fecal odor better than plastic. I'm fully bowel incontinent due to neurogenic bowel (nerve damage). I am OAB but have some limited control of bladder. Most likely I will be unusual in that, with my physicians' approval, I use old-fashioned enemas to manage my bowel incontinence.😱 By enemas, I don't mean the chemical Fleets, but rather the traditional soapsuds enema from a hanging rubber bag. I works extremely well and I will discuss that at another time. I look forward to sharing with y'all and learning as well as answering questions. Feel free to message me. --John

hello all! my name is Brian, and I have been incontinent on and off all of my life. it started getting worse when I was about 47 because I ended up having and problems with IBS and diverticulitis. Because I was having problems, I decided to wear diapers to take care of the problem. I'm 50 years old, I'm single, and I live in Vermont, in the central vermont area. I am also a member of daily diapers, and I have been since August 7th of 19. I'm glad to see that we have a place that we can discuss the issues of incontinence, because, because there are many times when you have or you want to ask questions, and you want to be able to do it without having somebody telling you that you shouldn't do this or you shouldn't do that. when you're in continent, you don't have the choice sometimes, and I decided that because I was having so much trouble, and I was disabled anyway, that it would be easier to wear diapers. Ever since then my stress level has gone down to 0, and I don't have to worry anymore! I also maintain websites, And I own my own server, and this is one thing that I do as a hobby and also to keep myself busy. If I keep myself busy, then I don't have to worry about much because Many people want to have a hobby that they enjoy, and I love my computers. people call me a techno nut But on top of that I am an uncle too many nieces and nephews, and I always try to set example either way. One thing about incontinence that I have learned is, that you will have to deal with it, And if you don't have the ability to control it, then you shouldn't worry about it, because that's just part of what is going on. we all have our medical conditions, and our reasoning for being here, I am happy that we have a place to discuss things like that. It is important that people who are incontinent have a place to hang out as well as to be able to ask the questions they want to ask, without the regular noise of other forums. Ohh by the way, my favorite diaper is the North Shore Mega Max, and that's what I use for my diapers, I use and have used every color they make, but my favorite color is pink, but I don't use a lot of whites, because they're just boring And part of the deal is once you're able to accept your need for diapers and your incontinence, part of what makes it easier to accept is to be able to have fun with it, and by that I mean you might you might as well enjoy what's going on by wearing diapers that are different there's, to match your lifestyle or your favorite colors. I can't thank North Shore enough because they are awesome when it comes to making these things for people who need them, because far too often there are many places that say they make diapers, but they're all pull ups and they're all tabbed underwear, and they don't even have half of the capacity that they should. that's why I went with plastic backed diapers because that's what I was wearing when I was a kid, and that is the only way that you will be able to manage incontinence in my opinion, because I am fully incontinent both directions and severely incontinent, And by that I mean I don't know when it will happen, but there have been times when things just happen And you release. Today for example, I went to work and worked a full shift from 9 AM to 3 PM. during that time I use my diaper several times I think I used it four times. And when I came home I had to use it again and again and again. then when I came back up from checking something in the basement, I just literally was releasing your at an incredible rate, And I think I flooded my diapers, which is something that normally does not happen, but I must have been thirsty or something because I couldn't control anything, and it was like somebody just giving me a water hose that constantly is running And I'm just constantly drinking and constantly releasing. I'm glad I have diapers now because if I need them I will have them, And I have good reason to use them, And because I have them I don't have to worry about what people will think people will say People will believe or anything like that. I joined this community and daily diapers community because I leave that the people there are awesome people, they understand exactly what people go through, many of them have gone through it, and know exactly what it is like to deal with it. I have learned from the experience that you should not worry about your incontinence, because that's just a part of life and it happens. I'm not afraid any more, and I don't have to hide the fact that I wear diapers or use them or need them, although I do admit that I like them. here on incont.org, we will probably discuss many things about incontinence and how we manage it and how we deal with it. I will also post my story in the appropriate form as well so people can see how I started. So I welcome all of you, and I look forward to seeing everyone as we continue to expand. Please feel free to message me or follow me if you wish either here or on daily diapers should you wish. Brian