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I hope you all have a lovely Christmas, what ever you are doing A clean one, as well. I can't wait to hear all about it (what you all got up to, I mean). I may do a thread in the new year (or someone else can) where we can all share what gifts we got etc

Slomo, excellent review and great annotated picture! I fully agree re the lower tape problem. My go-to diaper is BetterDry for both days and nights and, when my size is out of stock (such as right now), it's twin Crinklz. A primary reason for my choice is the absence of a landing zone and the tapes "where they should be." Unfortunately, once we get above around 6 liters of maximum absorbency, gel block and damming seems to limit the practical use of much of the diaper's SAP due to the lack of wicking. The adhesion of the tapes on the BeDry diaper would not be a problem for me as I almost never refasten tapes. I tape my diaper and, once on, it remains on until 6-7 hours later. Yesterday (Christmas Day) I wore a Crinklz for 10 hours. Admittedly, I did not drink as much water as usual as we were at our son's house with family and I preferred to avoid a diaper change there, if possible. Does anyone see any possibility of reversing the trend toward landing zones on most quality diapers? --John

TLDR: This diaper lacks a lower tape so premature leaks are expected to happen around the legs. The padding is too thin, so flooding will also result in leaks. This also makes it a poor diaper for side sleepers too. The tapes are actually too strong, which makes removing them problematic. The high sap content could potentially deliver their capacity rating, and also makes press out leaks less likely. Lastly, the landing zone tape outlines help with getting the best fit possible every time, but it's not wide enough to actually help. (pic attached). So I got my BeDry order a few days ago, and have been testing them out since. Unfortunately I was right about the "no lower tapes" problem, which almost always results in premature leaks- before even reaching half capacity. I've also noticed the padding on these diapers is laughably thin. They make up for the total claimed capacity by adding in a LOT more SAP (super absorbent polymer). I also took great note the diaper doesn't have a high enough rise in the front and back. Only rising up as high as my belt line, even though they should extend up too my actual waist line. So pointing up absolutely will result in leaks over the top "waist" band. The tapes are incredibly strong, really too strong. I've had gout in my left fingers, so I've had to use scissors just to remove them. This isn't the "diaper dimension" though, so the tapes really need to be removable by us all. Also, in order for me to get a good fit I've had to place the top tape partially above the landing zone, while angling the middle tapes a low as possible. This makes removing the top tapes even harder, sometimes resulting in tearing the outer shell. As for how they hold up to use, after about 6 hours I notice the front of the diaper becomes quite swollen with lots of loose and gelled sap. The padding starts separating and clumping by this time too. After about 8-10 hours the sap will be sagging towards the middle of the diaper. And if you're lucky enough to have it last 12 hours, the front of the diaper will have little to no material left. Having completely sagged towards the middle. The waistband elastics will have failed by this time too, and the diaper will be making every effort to succumb to gravity and slide completely off. Unfortunately, if you ever flood the diaper (like anyone with urge or overflow incontinence will have), then this diaper is not for you. The same for side sleepers too. My total bladder capacity is probably close to 50ml (the average bladder should be 300+ml). And for whatever reason, sleeping on my side tends to clamp shut my urethra. When that 50ml gets built up the pressure in my bladder will start to increase. Sometimes I wake up from it, sometimes I don't. Either way it will be enough to push past that slight clamping and I'll flood that 50ml all at once. Usually 3-5 times each night too. Each night I've tried BeDry, I've leaked at the front of the legs, which ever side I'm laying on. This happens when the diaper is wet only to about half way towards the back, at my second, or maybe third wetting. I've also leaked once over the top front of the diaper. Twice now I've had to get up early to change into a new BeDry or further catastrophic leaks would have been assured. During the day is a bit different. My diaper will get completely saturated in the front, and at least moderately wet in the middle. I once had the diaper wick pee up towards the back, even while sitting most of the time. At best, I'd say it was 66% fully saturated. At other times it was maybe 25% saturated. But in every case, the diaper I had on has leaked. Usually at the front of my legs, once at the back of my legs. As-is this diaper is good for maybe 8 hours. Any longer and chance for leaks will become high enough you just can't trust staying in it any longer. After all, the whole point of a diaper is for it to not leak. Today I've been testing the addition of my own lower tapes. It's already been 9 hours, and while the sap is definitely sagging there are no signs of the diaper trying to leak. Even with the middle of the diaper being extremely wet as well. The diaper sagging has not yet been a problem either. So this definitely confirms the need for those lower tapes. On a good note, the "whiff-x" core does work as promised with no detectable odor even after I've had it on for 12 hours. I really like the tapes outline on the landing panel too. It definitely helps with memorizing where the tapes are supposed to go for the best fit every time. Sadly this isn't enough for me to justify using them any more in the future. Once these run out, it's back to Crinklz for this behind.