Slomo

On 5/20/2023 at 10:35 AM, emily1890 said:

going in your diaper when the weather is warm and sunny

 

you're all ready uncomfortable because of the heat and the humidaty, and then boom, you have a dirty diaper to add to it.

 

it's a hot day today and I've done it 4 times. ugg

Yeah that's bad alright. Though you can top it by also adding when you're 10 minutes away from being done with working outside. You don't want to go change before finishing up, because that's when you can just take a shower. So you have to keep working while hot, sweaty, and now in a dirty diaper too.

Same here. I rarely leak in public too. Though when it does happen it's just an annoyance to me. But that's because I also wear a PUL diaper cover to contain any leaks, which help me notice it before the leak becomes outwardly noticeable. It's just a matter of stopping what I'm doing, removing the diaper cover, and changing my diaper. 

Before I started using Betterdry/Crinklz, and before I used a good diaper cover,  leaks were usually bad and happened at least once a week for me. Which was with using Abena L4 (the best on the market at the time), and I hated it. Those leaks were always noticeable and required a change of pants.

On 5/19/2023 at 11:03 PM, Zombie_Turtle said:

When did they come out with Betterdry?  I have only been using diapers for about 3 years and it was like a world was hidden to me before I started actively searching for answers and ordering things online.  After leaking several times with Depends Night defense (my first go-to before my issues got worse than they could handle) I got super frustrated and and started reading and searching more. Then I find online supplies, then I start to see all the baby print diapers, plastic pants and so on. popping up in searches, and blogs where people spoke about ABDL stuff but also a lot of useful information.  After getting over the shock value of it, I started learning a lot of tips and things I didn't have a clue about,  booster pads,  types of plastic pants, capacity ratings etc, Megamax, Betterdry...shoot, even how to not get diaper rash.    

It had to of been at least 3 years ago, maybe 5. Betterdry was released around the same time as Crinklz was though. Both are only available online too. They are the exact same diaper, except Crinklz has abdl prints on it, and Betterdry is plain white. I suppose it's possible when searching for a plain diaper, the one with prints on it came up too, so maybe you just skipped over it?

If you haven't by now, do give a single bag of them a try. They are thicker than any store brand, but it's worth it having something that works without leaking. If they fit and work good for you, only then consider getting them by the case.

Oh hello. I missed this post till now. So what happened that made you diaper dependent?

7 hours ago, david49 said:

Hello, thank you for your messages.

I feel the same. I no longer have any control over my bladder but the urge to urinate every 10 minutes has disappeared, it has been a real relief. Diapers … at the time I did not want to hear about it. Psychologically it was difficult but I learned to accept it. a lot of people think that I took the easy way out and that I could fight my incontinence a little more. in a sense, they may be right because without results, I lost motivation. I know this is not a solution to my problem but I cannot stay hidden at home. I need to wear and I have to wear diapers and finally with a little experience, I manage to live my daily life much better.

Yeah I completely understand that. At first it's not so much what type of incontinence you're dealing with, or how bad it is at first. It's just the fact you now need diapers, or a pullup, sometimes even just needing pads. Most everyone's first reaction is to try and fight needing diapers, no matter if it's a good or bad outcome, or even a partially good step in the right direction with horrible side effects.

Once you can get past that misconception though, you can also accept diapers are an enabling solution. Then you can start looking at further improving your quality of life.

9 hours ago, zzyzx said:

Ah, part of the reason I went with cloth diapers a long time ago.  Add layers to handle the needed capacity to get a good nights sleep....

Yes, it is only recently I'm able to consider disposable diapers for night time use - and yes, that is due to the ABDL community for both the diapers and higher capacity stuffers (sp?)....  I look for items that are functional in dealing with my issues and open to considering non-conventional sources....

Years ago, before high capacity disposables, I too had to switch to reusable cloth diapers. As a side sleeper, no disposable would hold up for me overnight. Even with a booster/stuffer. Then after after a month or two of switching my hips started hurting worse and worse. The added layers worked great to not leak, but the added bulk put too much of a lift on my hip. 

When betterdry finally the market it was all thanks to the ABDL community. And wow it was like a a godsend for me too. Now we have dozens of options.

I was at first, and with those old 1990s depends, I know for a fact people could hear them crinkling. Modern diapers a waaaay quieter. Though in a very quiet setting its possible someone could still hear them. Most anywhere else, forget it. People are so caught up in their own world they will not notice. Ever hear of the "gorilla test". Look it up on YouTube.

Like Brian, I too recommend PUL pants for mitigating the rest of that crinkling sound. Either Gary Activewear, or Northshore Trifectas. They are great at containing leaks (even with disposable diapers), help contain any smells, and do a great job muffling any sound.

Also, it gets easier with time. At some point you'll come to realize and fully internalize that diapers are not illegal, immoral, or even socially bad. They are necessary though, and anyone who has a problem with you wearing a diaper shouldn't be feared, they should be pittied. For it's their problem not yours. And once you get to that point you'll also stop caring even if they do notice. 

3 hours ago, John Davis said:

At night, I definitely would go for one of those baby diapers scaled up to adult size.  I am very wet at night and could actually use the extra absorbency.

--John

You do realize the size we are talking about right? A scaled up diaper like that would probably hold 10+ liters without leaking for 24+ hours, even for side sleepers who wet heavily. It would also extend half way up to your arm pits, and be like 3-5 inches thick all around. The tapes would also be so strong we'd probably need help removing them (scale up the size and weight and you also have to scale up the tape strength and diaper material strength too). Then there'd be the price, I don't even want to guess at that. I'm all in for a diaper that works great, but not that great.....

You're probably not into any of this, but believe it or not that kind of diaper is already well covered and discussed. In a series of fictional books and stores, centered around a "diaper dimension". Where human adults are little and babied by giant amazons. No need to go into details of it all, but suffice to say it's pretty crazy.

15 hours ago, Zombie_Turtle said:

fit is one thing, but what about some of the features on baby diapers.  more comfortable waistbands, better topsheets,  etc.  those things would be nice. 

It would be nice, including those channels to help reduce leaks and improve absorption towards the back of the diaper.

But that's where those patents and copyrights come into play and prevent anyone else from having those improvements. It's just corporate greed empowering those who have it while making sure nobody else does.

Personally, I believe patents and copyrights stifle innovation and reduce the number of those who can otherwise benefit from those improvements. They also keep prices higher than they should be.

Welcome. It sounds like you found a way to make your urges happen less often, but does the medication make the urges you still have less painful?

I too started off with urge incontinence, but mine was so painful that even medication didn't help at all. I had other complications too, and ultimately chose to seek complete bladder incontinence. I can no longer hold any pee at all, but that means I no longer have any bladder urges too. And I went from needing diapers with painful urges and flooding my diaper, to a constant drip without pain but still needing diapers.

In a way it's like digging deeper and to the side to get out of a tight hole. I'mstill a hole of sorts, but I'm much more comfortable. And I've seen a few others over the years that did similar. By oddly embracing incontinence, you can avoid that pain and inconvenience of flooding a diaper (and bad leaks). I'm not saying this is right for you (or anyone), but it may be worth considering if you're still having pain, urges, and/or bad leaks.

2 hours ago, John Davis said:

Aggree re the scaling.  Also, an article I read a couple of years ago extrapolated the size and padding of a baby diaper to adult size and determined that it would be so overly large that adults would refuse to wear it (even though it would perform its function very well).

--John

Oh man, you reminded me of something. I can't find a picture of it, but does anyone remember seeing those old-school, red, thick-padded, jockey shorts? The kind schools had pre-1990's, and would make boys put on when practicing for wrestling or sometimes in gym classes?

We always joked they were oversized diapers. And well, now you've got me imagining something like that.

I've seen this question a LOT. Why can't someone make an adult diaper that looks, feels, and most importantly works just as good as a baby diaper.

First, copyrights and patents. Baby diaper manufacturers want any advantage they can hold on to, and not let anyone else use their patented designs. Baby or adult.

Second, I came across this image. This is just how different our body shapes are from newborn to adult. So a diaper shaped for a baby could never "scale up" and work for an adult.

https://9gag.com/gag/ajXG1MG?utm_source

2 hours ago, John Davis said:

Zombie, one community (I forget where) last year classified used diapers as biowaste and required highly visible biowaste containers.  As it was a city  health regulation, those involved had no choice and were "outed" for all to see.😱

--John

Which is a complete overreach and abuse of power. It's already well established by many organizations that normal human waste is NOT classified as a biological hazard or medical waste. It's just regular residential waste waste. (Though diapers are allowed to be tossed in with other medical waste, it isn't required). As per the CDC, WHO, webmd, and others.

So yeah, it's a serious lawsuit just waiting to happen if some town our county decides to do that to their own residents.

Make sure you follow up on that request for a second can too. Make sure to mention they should NOT make the second can specially colored for incontinence or medical trash. Otherwise they will be forcing people to literally advertise to the entire neighborhood they have a medical condition.

It's good to see mostly positive replies here. Just to clarify, I too do not going around just telling others I wear a diaper. IF it comes up for some reason, then I'm pretty open about it. Personally, I believe it helps to dispell that stigma and awkwardness,  one person at a time.

Not just believable. Scientifically proven. Too much stress is well known to cause all kinds of problems, physical and mental.

What are the pros and cons to you needing/wearing diapers? And overall, would you say they are good, neutral, or bad?

My own PROS. Never have to stop what I'm doing to find a restroom. Seldom ever have to deal with disgusting restrooms. When my IBS-D flares up, I'm always thankful to already be diapered. Having that sweet relief from painful urges or a bursting bladder. Diapers reduce my stress and help me to relax. I actually like how diapers feel on me, and they can also be arousing at times too. And most importantly they let me get out of the house and live my life. 

CONS. Can't lie, they are expensive. Had to completely redo my wardrobe to accommodate and hide the bulk of the diaper. They were hot a sweaty the first few summers after going 24/7 (no longer a problem/contact though) Rashes. Leaks (Thankfully a seldom occurance). Medical grade (hospital/insurance) and store bought diapers are horrible to deal with. Took many years to overcome the prejudice and societal hate for adult diapers in general (also no longer a problem/con for me).

OVERALL. I'd say they were bad at first, mostly due to the learning curve and adapting...everything, to them. Now though I'd say they are good, mostly to having what works without too many problems, and feels comfortable.

For all those how wear a diaper. Part time, nightly, or 24/7. How much of a secret is it that you wear a diaper? Are you completely open to the world (purposeful exposure not tolerated), or matter-of-fact open about them to anyone it may be relavent to? Disclosed to a select few, but only because you felt you had to? Maybe normally hidden and only discussed after others confront you, or do you steer away from any such discussion you might need them? Or maybe do you keep everything diaper related top secret like fort knoxx, and/or completely deny they even exist?

I personally won't lie about about my diapers, and while I am legitimately urinary incontinent, before that happened I've also always seen being diaper dependent as a physical part of myself. Maybe not the same but somewhat similar to BIID (body identity integration disorder). As I definitely didn't choose to be this way, tried to deny it before, then realized I'm better of having accepted it. For me, it's never a "what type of underwear am I using", it's more of a "diapers are a part of my life, and I refuse to hide any part of who I am".

Personally, I'm pretty open about my need for diapers (both physically and mentally), though mostly just with friends and family. And I normally keep them somewhat hidden (but not secret) to the rest of the world- unless it comes up for some reason. Of which I normally stick to the physical aspect of my need for them.

So my immediate family knows, as do my close friends. Some coworkers limited knowledge, but I've also asked them to be discrete so coworkers don't know (of which I've sometimes prodded to try and confirm). I've also had random people find out (beach, masseuse, doctors, etc). Some of which were curious about them which led to a good conversation, others just left said confirmation at that and moved on. And of course a very few people jumped to their own misconclusions and tried to make an argument about it, which I've always just felt sad for them and done my best to move on.

I'd have to agree. For both pee and poop. Anything less than 1" tall just isn't effective enough. 1.5" seems to work ok enough, and 2" just works better. 

The Betterdry/Crinklz I use have about a 2" tall leak guard, and I might have a urine leak 1-2 times a month with them. And even with my occasional IBS-D I have never had a fecal leak.

After you switch to 24/7, your body will start adapting to the added heat retention down there. It took me a few years, but eventually it stopped feeling normally hot and sweaty. 

 Beore that happens, make sure you are completely drying out down there at least once per day. Use rash creams and/or powders after that too. And consider using a diaper that will only last 4-6 hours during 5he day so you'll be changing more often.

Hi. Tell us what's on your mind.

High sap content with low padding content will almost always do that. It's why those paspds are so cheap and prone to failure, because you get what you pay for.

I don't normally use booster pads though. Long ago I realized it's better to combine the cost of a diaper and the booster pad, and just get a better diaper at that same price. You'll end up with every bit the same absorbency or more, and will also have a better functioning diaper that is WAY less likely to leak.

For the few times a booster does make sense, the absolute best functioning with lowest cost possible is a baby diaper. Because of their economy of scale. I tear off the side tapes (it's incredibly easy, just hold it at the base of the tape and pull up. They come off very easy this way). When it gets saturated enough it will overflow into your adult diaper. Or you can change it out with another one to greatly extend the wear life of your adult diaper.

Also online.

Grocery stores and pharmacies only carry junk. It's one step up from the medical crap hospitals and insurance companies have, but still not worth it. They tend to be more expensive too (when looked at on a per-day cost, not per-diaper). So there's zero benefit to buying them.

Online, and by the case, is almost always going to be the least expensive option. Plus, you'll be getting diapers that actually work without leaking.

This all said, IF I somehow end up out of town and out of my usual supplies then I will look for medical supply stores. Usually they will have something half-decent enough to carry me over.

3 hours ago, John Davis said:

Of course, too much fluff pulp can cause the problem of "press-out" where when one sits down, our weight causes a small amount of pee to be pressed out of the diaper's absorbent mat.😕  THis is because fluff does not "lock in" the pee as SAP does.  However, that small amount of pee (usually very small) pressed out usually is absorbed back into the diaper.  By increasing the amount of SAP, diaper manufacturers almost eliminated the press-out problem.  However, by reducing the fluff they also eliminated most of the wicking.😱

Personally, I appreciate a soft, fluffy diaper.  Many all-SAP or nearly all-SAP diapers are stiff and "crunchy."

--John

Seconded. There is a definitive balance between too thin and too thick when it comes to the padding fluff.

I too have worn my diapers to 100's of Dr appointments (not kidding). I've talked to CT and MRI techs about my diapers, and they actually prefer we wear one rather than risk it. Because if someone might need them but doesn't wear a diaper, that can mean the tech has to stop the scan, clean the bed, then restart the scan. It's more, and messy, work they prefer not having to deal with.